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  • Jacant

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  • Me Here

    I guess I pushed when I should have pulled?

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    Buk,

    An 'Offset Baseline Face' are the remaining original 'Base' face / faces resulting from a 'Shell' operation.

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    You can also see the faces subtly take a mottled shading...

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  • Me Here

    Thanks TIm,

    That certainly explains what it does.

    What would also be nice, if you happen to be in the know, is the derivation of the term?

    Because neither 'offset', nor 'baseline' mean anything to me in this context. Even less so in some cases:

    (A link to some relevant documentation would be good too.)

     

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    Buk,

    An F1 search has only unearthed this ( bottom of reply )...

    These F1 pages are the official help pages from Ansys Spaceclaim.

    That's all i can find in the official 'Help'.

    However, upon selection of a face ( lets say one of the original faces prior to shell command), a dialogue box appears showing an offset value to 'it's' offset face - it would give a value , underneath saying 'This Face', enter a new value and a revised offset is made from 'This Face'.

    The dropdown box has options for None,This Face, Other Face, Center...

    applying 'None ' removes 'Offset' link.

    New values are remembered via dropdown for easy recall.

    Increasing complexity is accomplished by adding protrusions, ( More Shell icon).

    Took me a while to figure it ...haven't really used it in anger...

     

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    For what's it worth...in a section, it could be handy to understand when dragging a face is there's an offset face applicable.

    Not difficult to see for large value changes, but for small changes, say 0.1mm over a thickness of 3mm it's a handy guide.

     

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  • Me Here

    Thanks Tim.

    I had already done a search of the F1 help. Searching for 'offset baseline faces' without the quotes brings up 165 links most of which are just any occurance of any of the individual words. So then I tried quoting the entire phrase and it only found one reference, http://help.spaceclaim.com/dsm/5.0/en/Content/Selecting.htm where 'offset baseline faces' rates a mention -- along with 'offset faces' and 'Faces with same offset', and 'All coincident faces' -- as a sub species of 'offset faces" which is defined as 'Faces that have an offset relationship defined', but no further explanation.

    It's a little like reading a warning to be on the lookout for 'Vespa mandarinia', and only being told it is a subspecies of the genus 'Vespa'; and nothing else. The warning takes on a much greater sense of urgancy if they use the common term 'Killer hornets'.

    LIkewise, whilst reading between the lines of this discussion and the dribs and drabs from the documentation, I can use my programming background to reason that shells are represented internally as -- and  generated from -- the originating object + the offset measurement and missing face normal(s); that is only an (possibly wrong) inference about  the internals that I as a user shouldn't need to make. It would be so much clearer if they simply said: "shelled faces".

    Taking this a little further, I encountered the term on the Display Panel->Show menu, and my attempts to find any documentation for that panel have come up empty. Most of it is relatively obvious, but there are several bits that I've never used because I cannot see what they do, nor find any description.

    All of which is by way of showing that I wasn't just being too lazy to read the docs!

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