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Where do I find the "Replace" command?

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  • Jacant

    Make sure the objects that you want to replace are Components.

    Right click the Component in the Structure tree - Source - Replace Component

    Don't forget to 'Use Internal Copy' otherwise the original new 'Component' will be updated if you edit it in any way. 

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    Thanks for the quick reply. I did a quick test and when it asked me for the replacement component it took me to a list of files rather than an current individual component. Also the "Component" requirement would be difficult to use especially for small parts like a single screw. Is there any way possible to replace x number of the same part with a new updated part?

    Thanks again for yout help....very much appreciuated

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  • Jacant

    The 'individual component' is actually a file. It is just attached to and an integral part of it's 'Parent' file. That is why I said 'Use Internal Copy.

    Right click the Component you want to use in the Structure tree - Open Component. This opens the Component in it's own file. Now Copy and Paste in a 'New File' the solid you want from the Component. Save the new file as the part you want to use to replace with.

    Now when you want to 'Replace Component' go to the file you just created.

    As I said earlier If you use this New file to replace another Component this will be 'External' So use an Internal copy. Otherwise any edits will be updated to the original file

    Have a look in the help files for Components. 'Internal, external, lightweight, independent'.

     

    replace x number of the same part with a new updated part?

    The point of having Components is that there is one with as many copies as you want. Any edits to one will be updated to all.

    So the 'x number' of the same part means the part must be a Component.

     

    Also the "Component" requirement would be difficult to use especially for small parts like a single screw

    Not to sure what you mean by this.

    I remember when I was training in AutoCad. One of the first exercises was to make a 'Cube' 1 x 1 x 1 Saved as a 'Block'. Now when I wanted to use the Block I could insert it and scale it in the X Y and Z axis to have any size I wanted.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Also the "Component" requirement would be difficult to use especially for small parts like a single screw

    I'm assuming you're referring to having to find them, hunting around, zooming in/out etc.

    Try ' Ctrl F' - this brings up the 'find dialog' - here all the components can be easilly found (zooming in automatically) highlighted and found in the Structure Browser - If wanting to change all of the, say screws, for a different style of head etc, then choose ' Select All' ( select firstly, Active Component ( means itself and everything underneath it) or Entire Document) will be replaced using the 'replace component' command.  if wanted, RMB > Source > Replace Component.

    Putting bodies into components is a very important action. 'PULL' actions will affect any (undimmed - not greyed out AND displayed) body and NOT dimmed bodies. Only by using Components can 'Pull' not affect all displayed.

    Using components this movement of all these bits becomes easy...

     

     

    Replacement of a single or more components...

    To make this work for the replacement of screw example below, all screws are individual files with a single body( not components) directly underneath the file name. All on XYZ 0,0,0 head face center, Z upwards. No layers or axis needed.

    Using the Ctrl F keystroke, the Find Dialog could find all of a certain screw in the Active part or Entire Document.

    All instances under the active component will be replaced and orientated as per it's predecessor's. Immediately, rmb > source> Internalize all AND 'Make Independent'  or moving / changing in any way, will affect them all. An option here is not to make 'Independent' instead, move each parts 'Component' and only itself will move but change it's color etc and all will be affected.

    Hope this is all correct - just figured it out myself after some simple tests.

    Example of replacing components difficult to screen pick ( say in complex busy assembly) and in different Component groupings i.e - Entire Document.- positional and orientation info all maintained.

     

    As Jacant has said - have read in the help files about Internal, External, Lightweight and Independent components AND play with the concepts - it will pay off big time.

    Another example of a simple move using components and other faces, also referencing ' transitory objects'.

     

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    Thanks for all the help. I have now read about the internal, external, lightweight and independent components. Now I need to do some experimenting to put these options to the test

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    Tim - Thank you so much for all the research. Now I have a lot of experimenting to do with everything you and Jacant have offered. I just started using DSM about two months ago and I'm now at the point where it's really getting to be fun to find out what this package really has to offer.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Kenneth - sorry for the blitz of information.

    Replacing common components like screws used everywhere, in different components and at varing orientations for other screw styles is quite a powerful and advanced command and i'm new~ish to DSM to.

    Jacants comments about 'Open Component', then saving it as a file in itself is very interesting. As a seperate file being referenced, where it is used and saved yields a much smaller file size. Also, the referenced file can be saved as a dot numbered version if a 'version state' copy is thought wise to keep / refer to.

    As the next design decision i take tends to obliterate the past, i mostly do not to refer to the previous 'best efforts' that much.

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    The "Replace" command is not a vital part of my design world. I switched over from "sketchup" and Sketchup had a nice command that you could just select any or all occurrences of an object and replace them with another selected object. That was very helpful if you decided to change anything on the part. You could modify one and then update any of the parts with the same name. You could also change your mind on a part and replace all of them with one new part. The very nice thing about that was you didn't have to do anything special with any part to allow that replace to happen.

    With DSM it appears that to make the replace work on any part in my design, I would have to make every part a component to allow that to happen.

    As I said in my original post, there is a "replace" option listed in the help index. It shows an icon in the Design/Edit section but I have no idea how to make it appear.

    I have no idea how you and Jacant became so well trained in this software. Do you have a special instruction manual, classroom training, were you the original author of this software package, etc.? It seems to me that it is well worth my time to always right click on any command just to see whatever else might be hiding there.

     

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  • Tim Heeney

    Jacant imv is a zen master and has unparalled experience here over many years from the earliest version. Me, i just feebly struggle on.

    DSM help pages aren't apparently upto date - i agree, some functions listed aren't actually in the supplied version - what you get does alter from version to version.

    I can and do make mistakes , the biggy today is a confession that the necessary insertion of an axis, is false and besides and on top of that, upon Internalizing the replace comp, the axis decides to misbehave by disappearing in all but name.

    The good news is i know better now how and what to do.

    The super good news is that by selecting a hole edge, then importing a file of a screw ( seating head on ,0,0,0 Head in +Z dir) - bam, screw comes in exactly perfectly.

    I'll go back and change my previous advice.

    Cheers.

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    I'd like to ask a few more non-technical questions that I hope you can answer. Who wrote this software? Who owns the rights to this software? I think it is an excellent 3d modeling program and my budget requires a free software package but how are we lucky enough to have this package free? Are there on-going upgrades?

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  • Jacant

    I don't know about being a 'zen master'.

    I have been using DSM from the start with V1.  I think that was the best version. A lot of things where added and in subsequent versions were excluded. Some of the original tools have been reinstated, others not. Alas V1 does not work anymore, something to do with 'Dot.net version'.

    I was trained on AutoCad many years ago using MS Dos and Windows 3.1. I am retired now. I just do it to keep the grey matter working.

    You may find some of the history here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DesignSpark_Mechanical 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceClaim 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS_Components 

     

    Don't forget DSM can read and write SKP files. Just save them in the version of Sketchup that you use.

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    Retired? Good for you! God willing I'll be 80 this year. My primary occupation was a computer Programming instructor. Then the micros came out and I taught a lot of MS-DOS classes as well as WORD, EXCEL, etc.

    I had to bail out of sketchup because I use the CAD program to illustrate the wood automata that I design and make. Then I write instruction books on how to make them. That is not legal with the free version of Sketchup. I don't make enough from the books to justify buying a CAD program. Like you I primarily do this to keep my brain from fermenting 

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  • Jacant

    I still use Sketchup 7 and 8. Free and without any restrictions. V7 has a DXF importer. 

    I have the links somewhere if you want them. 

     

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  • Tim Heeney

    HI Kenneth.

    Made the necessary changes to my previous above.

    No layers, no Axis insertion.

    Components are necessary and very useful for easy moving and protecting parts from unintended 'pulling' actions.

    Hope all is clear with my modified post.

    Cheers

    Tim

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  • Tim Heeney

    Kenneth.

    You asked this earlier...

    ' I have no idea how you and Jacant became so well trained in this software. Do you have a special instruction manual, classroom training, were you the original author of this software package, etc.?'

    Having just watched another youtube video ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9f-eoCMLKc ' , i should have said that earlier - i got it all ( well, nearly all ) from youtube plus i have time to play..i suggest to search youtube for ' Spaceclaim tutorials ' they're not all by Spaceclaim themselves, but sometimes by their VARs - still though of solid educational value.

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    I noticed that you provided a link to a "Spaceclaim" file. It appears the Spaceclaim package has all the same basic features as DSM plus a few more. Is DSM kinda like an entry level package (free) to Spaceclaim ($$$)? I tried to get a price on Spaceclaim and they say ask for a quote. Anything that requires an "ask for quote" is not going to fit into my financial world limitations so I guess I'll just make do with what DSM has to offer.

     

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  • Jacant

    Do you have a special instruction manual,

    Missed that. There is a 'Guidebook' here.

    https://designspark.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004904329-Is-there-a-book-about-DesignSpark-Mechanical- 

    I would also suggest you follow all of the instruction videos here

    https://designspark.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202625729-Video-Tutorials 

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  • Kenneth Schweim

    I think I have looked at quite a few of the tutorials. However I think it will be worth my while to again go thru the list you provided as well as the guide book.

    As this time I feel comfortable working with DSM.  I think I'm comfortable only because I can get everything done that I want at this point. However, I think I am cutting myself short for not exploring more of DSM because I'm sure there are tools out there that will make using the software more productive and therefore more fun.

    Thank you again for all the super help you have given.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Kenneth.

    DSM program is a subset of the Spaceclaim program, an initial arrangement back in 2014 between RS and Spaceclaim Inc.

    Since then, ANSYS bought Spaceclaim and have expanded it's functionality as a general design solution only slightly - much greater development, more focussed in merging Spaceclaim and Ansys technologies into new products such as Ansys Discovery LIVE and Ansys Discovery AIM - dynamic geometry alteration with live (ish) FE ( finite element) responses thus shortening development times and maybe dramatic last minute alterations. Motivated commercial businesses should all be using this type of advanced design methodology or they'll be last or not the best or too expensive.

    Take a look at this ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKsKtMsFTZI ' , mechanically it gets good after 2:30 min ( all very interesting though) and with recognisable DSM tools / working methods being driven smartly. It's now, not the future.

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  • Nicos Bou

    Hi,
    for those who are interested, here are the prices of Spaceclaim package.
    I'm professionnal user of Ansys Discovery, it's just one great tool.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Thanks Nicos.

     

    Very tempted by Discovery Essentials which is Spaceclaim ( no FEM ) - cost wise , a year subscription is similar to DSM ( Free) + drawing + exchange modules in total cost, ( although that's a non expiring licence vs a yearly sub ) but there's much more in Spaceclaim.

    Much can be done in DSM, however Spaceclaim appears to have quite a few additional major aspects like Sheet Metal , Mirror,  Groups , Repair, Meshing / refining and a very comprehensive suite of data exchange translators. Also in Spaceclaim, it's littered with little niceties that do what DSM could, but doesn't by developers/owners decision.

    So for hobbyists, stick with DSM, for occasional business use DSM + both modules, for frequent business but non aspirational use, Spaceclaim ( Discovery Essentials ) , for aspirational in minimal design time  ( never not), then Discovery LIVE - caveat, they are only basic tools however...really i think Discovery Essentials ought to have basic FEM as 'Live'

    Thanks again Nicos.

    I really ought to get moving...

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