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  • Jacant

    The answer is here. I would recommend going through all of the tutorials from the begining.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfeqH-jcv2w&index=21&list=PLv91f6GOku1_WEeZMDmspEx0ZC-odebsR 

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  • B.Brincken

    Same question here, and I was brave and listened to and reproduced all 30 videos; and learned serveral interesting features on the way.

    But, there is no align tool or (Pull) option mentioned.

    What is possible is aligning the axes one after another with rotate-Upto and then moving the directions one after another - six steps in the worst case.
    What I expected the 'Align' tool to do - and would make sense for many designs IMHO - is to do this in one step.

    But I understand correctly - this tool has been abandoned from DSM?:
    http://help.spaceclaim.com/dsm/4.0/en/Content/Assembly_Align.htm

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  • B.Brincken

    "What is possible is aligning the axes one after another with rotate-Upto" - oops, this does not even work.

    Here is an example - the blue tube is tilted in two axes.
    Now I want to move/align the green box on top.
    But rotate-Upto with the tube's center axis as the target - yields an error message "Could not determine a rotation".

    So maybe rotate-Upto does not work if the target is rotated in more than one axis?

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  • B.Brincken

    There is a way to align objects - called Orient to Object

    The function is available as a helper of the Move tool as soon as a linear axis of the object ist selected. The result is not always predictable, but with some try-n-error the desired result can be achieved, for one axis after another.

    Still, a combined align tool - working on all axes in one step - would make a lot of sense.

    Actually I do not really understand the DSM product philosophy. New versions like currently DSM 5 are published - thanks a lot! - but the documentation is still in pre-V-4 status, like in this case describing a deprecated  'align tool'.

    Sooner or later any designer using DSM for serious work will need an align function - and stumble over the issue described here.

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  • Bruce Welty

    Absolutely true. I just hit the stone wall myself.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Guys, why not google what you can't find or try youtube - worth a shot no?

    This in youtube search ' DesignSpark Mechanical Orient ' yields this :

    ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQB96fkAAk '

    if not try a 'Spaceclaim' search as DSM technology comes from their bigger brother 'Ansys Spaceclaim.'

    It's a mamouth exercise to keep 'help' upto date and current - DSM doesn't have the budget like Seimens ,PTC , Solidworks et al.

    I appreciate the frustration in searching the online 'help' and then not trusting it...

     

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  • B.Brincken

    Tim, in order to find this Video, you have to know that the desired function is called Orient in DSM, when various other vector and CAD software speaks of Align. This is the main road block here.

    About mamouth exercise - my ancestors were working in this business. Give me access to the docs and I will sort out the main issues - i.e. remove outdated content and add a hint here and there - within this year. As a volunteer.

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  • Bruce Welty

    Secondarily, I watched that old fart make a nut and the copy it to make different sized ones. He did not know what he was doing on that video, so I would never have gone back and watched him again.

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  • B.Brincken

    Bruce, you are mixing something up, there are no old farts in the DSM community whatsoever.

    Apart from that, I support the idea that a correct textutal documentation should exist for a software like DSM.
    Videos are currently often considered a virtue, but actually it costs more time to extract any sought hint out of them when a simple text search would bring the answer within seconds. 

    How about a community wiki for DesignSpark Mechanical, starting with a copy of the current docs?
    Then each change can be viewed in the history, and could be rolled back in case of an error.

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  • Bruce Welty

    You haven't watched the video then. Jim Taylor IS OLD and his technique for "align" is asinine. And for the record, I stand here as an Old Fart! I have been in 3D design for longer than most! 1986 more or less and I was not a spring chicken at that time. I actually started Manual drafting in 1972. Under my Old Fart belt resides CADAM, Unigraphics, NX, ANVIL 5000, Several ACAD variants. ProE, CGS, TurboCAD DesignCAD, FreeCAD, SketchUp, Solidworks and a couple that I can't even remember. I instructed in CADAM at the college level. UG v13 for a private company and was prepped to teach ACAD v12 also at college level. 3D electronic checker and design leader/mentor. SO yeah I R OLD FART.

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  • B.Brincken

    Ok, update:
    We have one old fart in the community who is keen on identifying other old farts.

    Tim has contributed several videos on YT and textual hints here, so I would suggest to keep his spirit up, by all means.
    Still, the wiki offer stands.

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