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Do you find 8.1 less stable?

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  • Boss .

    I have been helping with the beta testing and not had a single crash on either of my two systems.

    To be fair I have very rarely ever had a crash since I first installed V2. 

    I have had MS Outlook and Word crash and even browsers, so I'm not immune!

    I recall  on the old forum that you had crashes, did you ever identify a specific cause? Just wondering what areas may be problematic, could be your designs are more intricate than mine which still tend to me small modules with analog and controller interfaces and mainly double sided.

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  • Brad Levy

    I haven't tried 8.1 yet. But using 8.0, the problem I used to have of crashing when attempting to output manufacturing plots a second time has returned. <sigh>

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  • DesignSpark PCB

    We have no reports of crashing specific to version 8.1, I contacted support and was informed they have very few reports of crashing in the last year and no specific issue could be identified.

    Some users did have corrupted design files as a result, the security copy was also corrupted, so do please [All users] ensure you create backup copies of your designs by making a copy of the project folder. Corrupted designs are not always recoverable!

    If you experience and crashes please report them to support even if it does not result in any specific problem as they will record the details for examining and look for common activities that were being performed  at that time as part of the  continuous improvement process.

    @BradLevy did you observe any changes that will help regarding the "return" of the Manufacturing Output crash?
    This is also rarely reported now and affects a few users, however this has never been identified as version specific.

     

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  • Stephen Hughes

    We never really got to the bottom of the crashes I was experiencing in earlier versions, they appeared to be related to having some files on a networked drive. My theory was that there was an issue accessing the file which caused an unhandled exception. Not easy to test I guess and moving the files off the networked drive seemed to fix the issue.

    One recent crash was editing a track, the other was editing a library component. Both things I do regularly without issue. Luckily neither the design file nor the backup were corrupted so I only lost a few minutes work.

    A thought I had, could the backup system be improved by keeping more than one backup and also, either when the program starts or when you open a file, if the program could check if there is a newer backup give you the option to restore it (but keep the main file as a backup in case).

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  • Brad Levy

    If I remember right, the cure for the output manufacturing files crash on second run first came in the form of a replacement for one of the dll files, that fixed an undefined (in some circumstances) drive letter or path. The fix was going to be rolled into the next release. I don't remember which version that next release was, and whether it was released before I went through a spell where I wasn't doing much PCB layout. Around six months ago my old laptop died. The replacement is running Windows 10 (vs 7), has an Intel (vs AMD) processor. I didn't install some of the (non DS_PCB) software I used on the old system onto the new system due to Win 10 compatibility issues. One thing that didn't change: I'm still in the US, so Allied is the default (vs RS).

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  • Brad Levy

    I've now installed 8.1.  I'll keep you posted if I encounter the crashes on second run of Output > Manufacturing Plots.

    -Brad

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  • Brad Levy

    Just encountered the crash on second run of Output > Manufacturing Plots with 8.1.

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  • Charles Azzopardi

    Installed v8.1   3 days ago - has crashed after it refused to save files - a schematic and a PCB layout . Luckily it stayed up initially just spiting out the error that it couldn't save the file after each attempt - tried saving as a different filename and then opened file manager and opened that drive and directory and no issues so went back to DS8.1 and tried again ..this time it saved the pcb and then the schematic but when I tried to make a change and resave it spat out the same error and this time windows came up saying the program is unresponsive and will be closed....luckily no real work lost

    I had installed the parts library loader (samac) yesterday and it seemed to work fine but had issues today when I started the system and the loader was throwing an error  (root xml) - reinstall didn'tfix it - not sure if its related, but certainly less stable.

    charlie

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  • Boss .

    @Charles that sounds like an install error and the folders have possibly not got the correct permissions for  DSPCB to save the file in. Probably need to raise a support ticket for this.

    You could try creating your project in a different folder, say C:\DSPCB_Test or similar to see if that works.

    I wouldn't try using Library Loader until the basic DSPCB install is working as that may be having the same folder issue and just confuse the situation.

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  • Charles Azzopardi

    Thanks Boss...but I think found the culprit - SSD drive C: was running short of space - after running WinDirStat program tracked it down to windows  consuming 106G of a 250G SSD  - seems to be a know issues with logs and cabs not being able to be zipped and deleted so they just accumulate - after cleaning out windows temp older logs etc it recovered most of the 60G

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