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  • Michael Gauthier

    Really don't understand why there is no mirror tool.

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  • Georg Schlenk

    As this tool is really important and not provided in free DS, it's missing seems to be meant as a strong incentiv to buy spaceclaim.

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  • Paulo Oliveira

    That's a great incentive to make me angry. I have already asked for more than once there in the feature request, but so far nothing. It must be even intentional, because even the scaling tool, which can sometimes be used for mirroring (negative scale) does not work as expected.

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  • Alex Kazimsky

    Yes, VERY NEED opportunity or tool for mirror object !!!!

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  • David Petschulat

    It's not that obvious, but do this to mirror:

    1. make a copy of desired object(s) and select them

    2. "Flip" them

    3. Rotate them 180 degrees

    If they wind up on the wrong layers from what you expect, you can "Swap" their layers.

    Put this all together and you have mirrored objects. I just did it, and I'm happy as a clam.

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  • Kristian Penno

    How does one "Flip" an object?

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  • Michael Gauthier

    No amount of manipulation seems to result in a true mirror with complex 3d objects. 

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  • David Petschulat

    How to "Flip" an object? I just selected several traces and right-clicked on them and "Flip" showed up on the popup menu. Clicked it.

    I can't vouch for how this handles "complex 3D objects" although shows my boards themselves render nicely in 3D views.

    I've been as vexed as the rest of you, so I was pretty happy when I realized that flip + rotate = mirror for my circuit boards.

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  • Kristian Penno

    I don't sup[pose you could post a screen shot of that pop-up menu with Flip on it?

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  • jane leog

    In the sketch mode, it is possible to make a mirror. 

    First draw a construction line in the sketch group, select the construction line and right click, choose 'set as a mirror line'. 

    Then, draw line or circle, or others you want, you will see the mirror in the other side the of the construction line.

    Try it.

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  • B.Brincken

    "I selected several traces and right-clicked on them and "Flip" showed up on the popup menu."

    This does not work (any more?) in DSM 4 or 5.

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  • Paulo Oliveira

    I leave designspark since this. Using Fusion 360 now. Its much better

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  • B.Brincken

    Can't confirm. I spent quite some time with Fusion and found it often cumbersome, while carrying numerous artefacts of other or older CAD software.

    Designspark is much more elegant and - after working through the learning curve and the sometimes misleading docs - effective.
    But, the lack of a mirror function, among some glitches and lacking docs, leaves it as a mere demo for Spaceclaim.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Searching within DSM help pages for 'FLIP'

    'Flip' is quite a common word.

    These are some of the results - i can't find any that actually mean 'mirroring' of faces or parts etc.

     

     

    I agree constructing a mirrored part is more work than just commanding it so - but it's not impossible and in many cases, really quite simple. OK, you got me...i wouldn't like to model a pair of car headlights or a human hand ! But for symmetry ( one, two or many planes) - DSM has some tools and abilities.

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  • B.Brincken

    Yes, once you know that there is no mirror tool you might start with a mirror construction right away.
    But just by bravely following the tutorials and reading the docs you can't know that - you have to stumble over the lack of the tool that is described in the docs, and (hopefully) be enlighted by this thread.

    Then again, for designs with several iterations, like mine, having to carefully place the mirror plane for each step is not effective; and not why you started with CAD in the first place, instead of building a prototype with wood and sand paper.

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  • Tim Heeney

    Any information within DSM help, indicating/ implying a 'Mirror' function for faces / parts etc isn't very helpful for anyone.

    If you find any, please bring it to forum or support directly.

    To my knowledge, DSM has never had such a function. Help pages are constantly being updated /revised - can't say they were always 100% correct and can't, even with V5 help, confirm 100% compliance.

    If you'd like some of my input 'How to make a mirror, ' the 'knife and fork' kind - post up a typical part. Can't promise success mind you but you're welcome to what i know.

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  • B.Brincken

    Ok, my mistake, I had the 'Mirror' in my head from the Spaceclaim feature list.

    In DSM, there seems to be only one small artefact of this history left:
    http://help.spaceclaim.com/dsm/5.0/en/Content/Advanced_options.htm?SearchType=Stem&Highlight=mirror|mirror|mirror

    'Enable left hand mirror transforms'

     

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  • Tim Heeney

    Thanks - i think that, ' Help' page comment 'Enable left hand mirror transforms: Mirrored components will be left hand transforms of the original model, and not contain the true, mirrored geometry. Drawing sheets and downstream applications will see the original model, not the transformed component.' might not be fully redundant.

    DSM has the ability ( with data Exchange module ) to import step files and treat them as native DSM ( err, i think), perhaps the caveats above, might still then apply ( e.g 'drawing sheets and downstream applications' ) and thus need some inclusion in the 'help' - but that's a guess only. I could also easily believe, a mirrored pair in a step translation, wouldn't keep any mirroring association upon importing. I could also 'Pray to any Almightly Lord' listening that such an import would keep the association.

     

     

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  • B.Brincken

    Anyhow, the option does not show up in (my) DSM 5 settings form.

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  • Tim Heeney

    I truly wish for a part / face ( anything ) proper Mirror function.

    Anything is possible with DSM but complicated , multi compound angled faces take too long to construct into a mirrored part.This took about 6 hours - a small time compared to the original design creation, but still too long.

    Upside...learnt much about line and point projection or creation  and pulling same into lines /surfaces. As an exercise. Quite positive - not so scary now :)

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  • B.Brincken

    Someone proposed to export the model to STL, mirror it in another program and re-import into DSM.

    Just tested that - mirror in Meshmixer (free) works fine, opening that in DSM as well.

    If that works out well for CAM of mechanical parts is another question.

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